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Inspecting Hermes Desktop Dom

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inspecting-hermes-desktop-dom — Read the live Hermes desktop DOM/CSS over CDP.

Overview

PublisherAtlasOmnia
Repositorydonna-starter
Skill nameinspecting-hermes-desktop-dom
Stars
131
Forks
9
Bundled files
Instructions only
LicenseMIT
Links
  • Markdown instructions

    A SKILL.md file the model loads on demand, so it only costs tokens when a request actually matches.

  • Works with any LLM

    AI skills are plain Markdown, not provider-specific code, so this works with GPT, Claude, Gemini, Grok, or a local model.

  • Self-contained

    Everything the model needs lives in the instructions — no extra files to sync.

  • Open source

    Published by AtlasOmnia on GitHub. Read the source before you install it.

Installation

Install the Inspecting Hermes Desktop Dom AI skill in TypingMind to use it with any LLM, or drop it into another agent that reads SKILL.md.

1

Install in TypingMind

TypingMind installs a skill straight from its GitHub folder — it reads SKILL.md, bundles the resource files, and stores the result locally.

  1. Open the app and go to Plugins → Skills.
  2. Choose "Install from GitHub".
  3. Paste the skill folder URL below and confirm.
    https://github.com/AtlasOmnia/donna-starter/tree/main/skills/software-development/inspecting-hermes-desktop-dom
  4. Enable the skill in any chat where you want it available.
Plugins → Skills → Add skill → From GitHub URL, then paste the folder URL and press Continue.
2

Install in another agent

Any agent that reads the Agent Skills format can use this skill — copy the folder into that agent's skills directory.

Claude Code — .claude/skills
git clone --depth 1 https://github.com/AtlasOmnia/donna-starter.git /tmp/donna-starter
mkdir -p .claude/skills
cp -r /tmp/donna-starter/skills/software-development/inspecting-hermes-desktop-dom .claude/skills/inspecting-hermes-desktop-dom
Restart Claude Code after copying so it picks up the new skill.

Use it in TypingMind

Enable Inspecting Hermes Desktop Dom in any TypingMind chat and the model takes it from there. Its name and description sit in the system prompt, and the moment a request matches, the model loads the full instructions itself — you never invoke it by hand, and it costs no tokens until it is actually used.

The model loads Inspecting Hermes Desktop Dom on its own as soon as a request matches it.

Works with any AI model

AI skills are plain Markdown instructions rather than provider-specific code, so Inspecting Hermes Desktop Dom is not tied to the model it was written for. Install it once in TypingMind and use it with GPT-5, Claude, Gemini, Grok, DeepSeek, Mistral, Llama, or a local model you run yourself — all on your own API keys.

  • Loaded only when it is needed

    The system prompt carries just the name and description. The instructions are fetched on the first matching request, so an idle skill costs nothing.

  • Switch models mid-chat

    Because the skill is instructions rather than code, changing model does not break it — the next model reads the same SKILL.md.

Skill instructions

This is the SKILL.md content the model loads. Read it before installing — a skill is instructions your model will follow.

Inspecting the live Hermes desktop DOM

Overview

When you are developing apps/desktop and the user is running that same app (hgui / npm run dev), you can read the live rendered DOM of the window they are looking at — computed styles, geometry, which CSS rule actually won, console output — instead of inferring it from .tsx and being wrong.

Dev-server runs open a Chrome DevTools Protocol port on 127.0.0.1:9222 automatically. The renderer is a Chromium page, so everything DevTools can read, a script can read.

This does not replace looking at it. CDP answers factual questions ("what is the computed padding", "did this element render", "which selector matches"). It cannot tell you whether the result looks good. Colour balance, spacing feel, and "is this ugly" still need the user's eyes or a screenshot. Answer facts with CDP; hand aesthetics to the user.

When to Use

  • Verifying a UI change actually took effect in the running app
  • "Why is this element still X?" — find the winning rule before editing anything
  • Locating a stable selector for a component you're about to change
  • Checking a design token's computed value on a real node
  • Reading renderer console errors the user mentions but can't copy out

Don't use for: perf profiling or heap work (node-inspect-debugger, debugging-hermes-desktop), or anything where the real question is "does this look right".

The port

Open on 127.0.0.1:9222 for any dev-server run. Closed in exactly two cases (apps/desktop/electron/dev-cdp.ts):

  • packaged builds — always, and no environment value overrides it;
  • no HERMES_DESKTOP_DEV_SERVER — an unpackaged electron . against dist/ is how the packaged app gets smoke tested, so it behaves like one.

HERMES_DESKTOP_CDP_PORT moves the port (=9333) or disables it (=off).

Check before doing anything else:

bash
curl -s --max-time 3 http://127.0.0.1:${HERMES_DESKTOP_CDP_PORT:-9222}/json/version

Empty → no port. Do not guess another port silently.

Never relaunch the user's app to get a port. That destroys their session and their state. Launch your own isolated instance instead (below).

Reading the DOM

apps/desktop/scripts/eval.mjs is the one-liner:

bash
cd apps/desktop
node scripts/eval.mjs "document.querySelectorAll('[data-slot]').length"

For multi-step work use the shared client — it has target discovery and promise-aware eval:

js
import { CDP, SELECTORS } from './scripts/perf/lib/cdp.mjs'

const cdp = await CDP.connect({ port: 9222, match: '5174' })
const out = await cdp.eval(`JSON.stringify({
 radius: getComputedStyle(document.documentElement).getPropertyValue('--radius-scalar').trim(),
 composer: !!document.querySelector('[data-slot="composer-rich-input"]')
})`)
cdp.close()

SELECTORS in scripts/perf/lib/cdp.mjs holds the stable data-slot hooks (composer, thread viewport, assistant message, turn pair, profile rail). Prefer them over inventing a querySelector — they are updated as a unit when components move.

The question this is best at: which rule won?

Editing every call site because a style "isn't applying" is the classic waste. Read the real node first:

js
const el = document.querySelector('[data-slot="aui_assistant-message-root"] a')
JSON.stringify({
 ownClasses: el.className,
 weight: getComputedStyle(el).fontWeight,
 parents: (() => {
 const out = []
 let n = el
 while ((n = n.parentElement) && out.length < 6) out.push(n.className)
 return out
 })()
})

If the node carries no class of its own, the value is inherited — sweeping call sites will not fix it, and you need the ancestor rule. A plugin stylesheet (e.g. @tailwindcss/typography's prose a { font-weight: 500 }) routinely beats a utility class; override on the shared class, not at each usage.

Your own isolated instance

When there is no port, or you must not disturb the user's window:

bash
cd apps/desktop
HERMES_HOME=/tmp/cdp-probe-home \
HERMES_DESKTOP_DEV_SERVER=http://127.0.0.1:5174 \
HERMES_DESKTOP_CDP_PORT=9333 \
 npx electron . --user-data-dir=/tmp/cdp-probe-userdata

The separate --user-data-dir dodges Electron's single-instance lock, so it cannot collide with a running hgui; the separate HERMES_HOME keeps it away from real sessions. Pick a port other than 9222 for the same reason. Run it in the background and kill it when done.

npm run perf:serve does the same with a temp HERMES_HOME baked in, if you also want the perf harness.

Pitfalls

  • Never kill the user's dev server or app to "free" anything. A mid-serve kill nukes Chromium's socket pool, and the resulting ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED gets blamed on whatever you just changed.
  • A throwaway HERMES_HOME has no backend. The app logs ECONNREFUSED for hermes:api and may exit on its own. The renderer still mounts and the DOM is readable — read promptly, and don't mistake a self-exited probe for a broken port. Chromium logs DevTools listening on ws://127.0.0.1:<port>/… when it binds; that line is the proof the port opened.
  • Poll, don't probe once. A just-launched app needs a second or two before the port answers.
  • Never dump the whole DOM. The desktop renders hundreds of nodes and outerHTML will bury your context. Project down to a small JSON object inside the evaluated expression.
  • Pass match to CDP.connect. Without it you may attach to the pet overlay, quick-entry window, or a devtools target instead of the main window.
  • cdp.eval returns the value; raw Runtime.evaluate double-nests it (.result.result.value). Use the wrapper.
  • import.meta.env.DEV is true under vite dev in this repo. The note in apps/desktop/scripts/profile-typing-lag.md claiming otherwise is stale.

Frequently asked questions

What does the Inspecting Hermes Desktop Dom AI skill do?

inspecting-hermes-desktop-dom — Read the live Hermes desktop DOM/CSS over CDP.

Why use Inspecting Hermes Desktop Dom on TypingMind?

Because you install it once and use it with any model. Inspecting Hermes Desktop Dom is plain Markdown rather than provider-specific code, so the same skill runs on GPT-5, Claude, Gemini, Grok, or a local model — and you can switch model mid-chat without it breaking. TypingMind runs on your own API keys, so you pay providers directly instead of a per-seat subscription, and your skills and chats stay in your own storage.

How do I install Inspecting Hermes Desktop Dom in TypingMind?

Open Plugins → Skills → Install from GitHub in TypingMind and paste https://github.com/AtlasOmnia/donna-starter/tree/main/skills/software-development/inspecting-hermes-desktop-dom. TypingMind reads its SKILL.md and installs it as a skill you can enable per chat.

Which AI models can use Inspecting Hermes Desktop Dom?

Any model you connect in TypingMind. AI skills are plain Markdown instructions rather than provider-specific code, so GPT, Claude, Gemini, Grok, and local models can all load this skill when a request matches it.

How many AI models can I use with Inspecting Hermes Desktop Dom?

As many as you like. As long as a model supports skills, you can use Inspecting Hermes Desktop Dom with it — GPT, Claude, Gemini, Grok, DeepSeek, Mistral, Llama and more — all on TypingMind with your own API keys.

Is the Inspecting Hermes Desktop Dom AI skill free?

Yes. It is published on GitHub by AtlasOmnia under the MIT license. You only pay your own AI provider for the tokens you use.

What are AI skills?

An AI skill is a reusable instruction bundle that teaches an AI model how to do one specific task. It follows the open Agent Skills format: a SKILL.md file with a name and description, plus any scripts, templates or reference files the model may need. The model reads the instructions only when your request matches the skill, so an installed skill costs nothing until it is used.

How are AI skills different from plugins or MCP servers?

A plugin or MCP server gives a model new tools to call — code that runs somewhere and returns a result. An AI skill gives the model knowledge and process instead: how to approach a task, which steps to follow, what good output looks like. Skills are plain Markdown, so they need no server, no API key and no runtime, and they work with any model.

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