LLM Pipeline Analysis
Overview
Use this when a whole-trace profiler summary is too coarse. The scripts read a Chrome-trace JSON file, find layer-boundary anchor kernels, group kernels into forward passes and layers, and print timing tables you can use for Perfetto navigation or detailed timing analysis.
When To Use It
- when you need to know which layers contribute most
- when the model has alternating layer types (e.g. models with
compress_ratioslike DeepSeek-V4 NSA, or hybrid GDN/GQA stacks such as Qwen3.8-27B) - when you need to compare cold-start vs steady-state forward passes
- when you need to navigate to a specific layer in Perfetto UI
- when you need to select representative layers for deep-dive analysis
Verify inputs from artifacts
Resolve model config, phase, rank/device and TP/EP/DP from the run manifest,
server arguments and trace. Ask only for missing information that changes the
analysis. TP-0 identifies a rank, not TP world size; do not default an unknown
run to TP8/EP8 or decode BS1. Speculative request BS and target-verify M differ.
If no config is available, use an explicit profile and verified layer count.
Model Profiles
Scripts use ModelProfile to determine layer boundary detection and kernel
classification. Profiles are auto-inferred from config.json or selected
via --profile:
| Profile | Anchor kernel | Blocks/layer | Auto-infer condition |
|---|---|---|---|
dsv4_csa_hca | mhc_pre_big_fuse | 2 | DeepSeek-V4 or compression fallback |
dsv41 | explicit verified anchor | 1 (override for sublayers) | V4.1 text/wrapper identity or KV-source layers |
dsv3_mla | explicit backend anchor or residual boundary | backend-dependent | homogeneous MLA after identity dispatch |
mla_dsa | verified residual boundary | 2 | GLM-5/5.2/5.3, V3.2, DSA MLA |
kimi_k3 | explicit attn_res_fused (SGLang) / attn_res_fwd_online_v2_kernel (vLLM) | 2 + one output aggregation/pass | K3 / Kimi linear with attention residual |
glm5_next | mhc_pre_big_fuse | 2 | GLM-5.3-Flash |
hy_v4 | explicit ihc_pre_stage2 on Triton fallback | 2 | Hy4 (hpc symbol requires trace check) |
qwen4_exp | explicit grouped_gemma_rmsnorm | 2 | Qwen3.8-Flash-Next (vLLM may fuse norm) |
nemotron_h | explicit residual norm | 1 | one Mamba/attention/MoE block per config layer |
longcat_flash | explicit residual boundary | 4 | LongCat-Flash architecture |
gemma4 | explicit _gemma_qkv_rmsnorm_kernel (SGLang CUDA) | 1 | Gemma4 text/wrapper identity |
generic_addnorm | verified fused-add RMSNorm or allreduce fusion | 2 | other configured models |
generic | explicit anchor; residual candidates only | 1, or 2 for residual candidates | config-less fallback |
Nested text_config, language_config and llm_config are flattened before
inference. Model identity takes priority over kv_lora_rank: K3, GLM-5 Next,
Hy4, dots3 and LongCat must not be treated as homogeneous V3 MLA.
Read layer count from config: V4 Flash has 43 layers, Pro 61, V4.1 40.
These anchor families are source-verified for SGLang/vLLM, with backend and
phase caveats; TensorRT-LLM/TokenSpeed cadence requires separate trace evidence.
Prerequisites
- A
torch.profilertrace in Chrome-trace JSON format (.jsonor.json.gz) - The model's
config.json(for profile inference,compress_ratios, etc.) - The trace must contain a recognizable layer-boundary anchor kernel
(auto-detected from the profile, or specified via
--anchor-kernel)
Layer Boundary Detection
The scripts use an anchor kernel as a layer-boundary marker. The anchor and layer structure are determined by the active ModelProfile.
Find the model's residual kind at its stage boundary first. SGLang declares
attention/FFN boundaries through python/sglang/srt/layers/layer_boundary/factories.py
(add-norm, gated, iHC, mHC, post-norm and stream). Backend dispatch determines
the visible boundary kernel.
V4 currently starts each half at mhc_pre_big_fuse*: attention-pre then
FFN-pre, two anchors per layer. Fused post+pre removes mhc_post_tilelang
for small-token SGLang traces; retain that old anchor only for verified unfused
traces or the >32-token path. V4.1 uses previous-sublayer pre-mix and disables
that cross-layer fused path, so it always requires explicit anchor evidence.
FlashMLA's flash_fwd_mla_combine depends on backend and split count; SM100
SGLang V3 defaults to TRT-LLM MLA, while DSA models use DSA.
All scripts accept --blocks-per-layer K --anchor-offset I --pid PID --device D.
I is a verified first-layer anchor in the selected GPU, not inferred from
counts. Mixed ranks/devices and a count residue modulo N*K are rejected.
A divisible count is necessary but insufficient: separate target/draft phases,
MTP/DSPARK passes and TBO microbatches first. K3's extra output aggregation
requires a phase-filtered trace for these timing analyzers; the layer-track
helper supports the extra anchor explicitly. The final selected pass ends at
the selected GPU event boundary, which must itself be verified as a complete
pass. Anchors are navigation intervals; cross-stream kernels may overlap them.
For compiled vLLM traces, norms can lower to Inductor kernels. Capture a short mapping trace with explicit norm custom ops or eager execution and verify an attention/backend anchor on the actual measured trace.
Source audit 2026-10-05: SGLang V4 dispatch, mHC kernels, vLLM mHC dispatch.
Scripts
1. layer_timeline_analyzer.py — Per-layer timeline and cluster stats
bash# Show all forward passes summary (cold-start vs steady-state) python3 scripts/layer_timeline_analyzer.py \ --trace /path/to/TP-0.trace.json.gz \ --config /path/to/config.json \ --show-all-passes # Detailed per-layer breakdown for a specific forward pass python3 scripts/layer_timeline_analyzer.py \ --trace /path/to/TP-0.trace.json.gz \ --config /path/to/config.json \ --fwd-pass 5 # Auto-select the first relatively stable pass window python3 scripts/layer_timeline_analyzer.py \ --trace /path/to/TP-0.trace.json.gz \ --config /path/to/config.json
The script prints:
- Per-layer wall-clock time, sum-duration, and category breakdown (MLA, MoE, GEMM, NCCL, MHC, Hadamard)
- Layer cluster statistics grouped by type (CSA_C4, HCA_C128, HASH, etc.)
- All-passes summary showing cold-start → steady-state growth
Automatic steady-state selection requires two consecutive layer-0 timing
changes within 5%. It does not use an absolute latency threshold, so the same
rule works across model sizes and accelerators. If no stable window exists,
choose --fwd-pass explicitly.
2. layer_kernel_breakdown.py — Per-layer kernel detail and compute flow
bash# Single layer kernel dump python3 scripts/layer_kernel_breakdown.py \ --trace /path/to/TP-0.trace.json.gz \ --config /path/to/config.json \ --fwd-pass 5 --layer 3 # Compute flow format (with model architecture summary and category column) python3 scripts/layer_kernel_breakdown.py \ --trace /path/to/TP-0.trace.json.gz \ --config /path/to/config.json \ --fwd-pass 5 --layer 3 --format compute-flow # JSON export python3 scripts/layer_kernel_breakdown.py \ --trace /path/to/TP-0.trace.json.gz \ --config /path/to/config.json \ --fwd-pass 5 --layer 3 --format json # Compare two layers side-by-side python3 scripts/layer_kernel_breakdown.py \ --trace /path/to/TP-0.trace.json.gz \ --config /path/to/config.json \ --fwd-pass 5 --layer 2 --compare-layer 3
Output formats:
--format text(default): grouped summary + top hot kernels ranked by duration, with simplified names and percentages--format compute-flow: model architecture summary + per-kernel hotness table withCategory,%, andts_rel(ms)columns--format json: one machine-readable JSON document ranked by duration; with--compare-layer, it containsprimary,comparison, andkernel_diff- Kernel diff when comparing two layers (unique kernels in each)
3. perfetto_time_mapper.py — Perfetto UI time navigation
bash# Show all forward pass time ranges in Perfetto python3 scripts/perfetto_time_mapper.py \ --trace /path/to/TP-0.trace.json.gz \ --config /path/to/config.json # Layer-level time ranges for a specific forward pass python3 scripts/perfetto_time_mapper.py \ --trace /path/to/TP-0.trace.json.gz \ --config /path/to/config.json \ --fwd-pass 5 --layers 2,3,38,42
The script prints:
- Forward pass time ranges in Perfetto-relative seconds
- Per-layer start/end times with compress_ratio labels
Workflow
Step 1: Identify steady-state forward pass
bashpython3 scripts/layer_timeline_analyzer.py \ --trace $TRACE --config $CONFIG --show-all-passes
Read the "all-passes" table. The first pass is cold-start (few tokens). Use the first relative-stability window selected by the script, or choose a pass explicitly when timings continue to change.
Step 2: Per-layer breakdown on steady-state pass
bashpython3 scripts/layer_timeline_analyzer.py \ --trace $TRACE --config $CONFIG --fwd-pass 5
Identify:
- Which layer type dominates (CSA_C4 vs HCA_C128 vs HASH)
- The MLA / MoE / GEMM / NCCL proportion per layer type
- Which layer type is the best next target
Step 3: Compute flow for representative layer(s)
Select 1-2 representative layers (one per bottleneck type), then:
bash# Human-readable compute flow table python3 scripts/layer_kernel_breakdown.py \ --trace $TRACE --config $CONFIG \ --fwd-pass 5 --layer 3 --format compute-flow # JSON export python3 scripts/layer_kernel_breakdown.py \ --trace $TRACE --config $CONFIG \ --fwd-pass 5 --layer 3 --format json > /tmp/layer3_detail.json
The --format compute-flow output includes:
- Model architecture summary at the top
- Per-kernel hotness table with
# | Half | Category | Simplified Name | dur(us) | % | ts_rel(ms) | Input Dims - Rows are ranked by
dur(us)descending by default; usets_rel(ms)to jump back to the kernel's trace location.
Step 4: Compare layer types (optional)
bashpython3 scripts/layer_kernel_breakdown.py \ --trace $TRACE --config $CONFIG \ --fwd-pass 5 --layer 2 --compare-layer 3
This shows the exact kernel difference between the two layer types.
Step 5: Navigate in Perfetto UI (optional)
bashpython3 scripts/perfetto_time_mapper.py \ --trace $TRACE --config $CONFIG \ --fwd-pass 5 --layers 2,3,38,42
Use the printed time ranges to navigate directly in Perfetto.
Layer Type Classification
The scripts classify layers based on config.json fields:
| Config field | Value | Layer Type | Description |
|---|---|---|---|
compress_ratios[i] | 0 | SWA_ONLY | window-only attention, no compressor/indexer |
compress_ratios[i] | 4 | CSA_C4 | compressor + lightning indexer (Hadamard/paged-MQA/top-k) + sparse attention |
compress_ratios[i] | 128 | HCA_C128 | compressor + all compressed rows and window; no indexer |
compress_ratios[i] | 2 / 1 | V41_C2 / V41_C1 | source-layer compressor/indexer; other layers share KV/index |
i < num_hash_layers | — | +HASH | hash routing in the FIRST N layers, composable with FIRST/FINAL |
i == 0 / N-1 | — | +FIRST / +FINAL | positional flags, never replace attention/routing work |
V4 Flash/Pro hash-route L0–2. V4.1 has no hash layers; its KV source layers
are [2,8,14,20], index sources [2,8,14,20,24,28,32,36], candidate source
20, and Engram layers [1,14]. Use these role fields when choosing representative
layers. Pro starts with ratio-128 layers; do not assume its first two are SWA.
K3's KDA layer ids are 1-indexed, whereas GLM-5 Next uses 0-indexed KDA ids.
Kernel Categories
Kernels are classified by the active ModelProfile's rules. Categories marked
with (DSv4) are specific to the dsv4_csa_hca profile; all profiles include
the universal categories.
| Category | Match Pattern | Profile | Typical Share (DSv4) |
|---|---|---|---|
| ★ MLA Attention | flash_fwd_splitkv_mla | DSv4, DSv3 | 21-33% |
| ★ MoE Fused | fused_moe_kernel | DSv4, DSv3 | 11-17% |
| ● NCCL AllReduce | case-insensitive allreduce, all_reduce, cross_device_reduce, reduce_scatter, NCCL/Lamport | universal | 5-8% |
| GEMM fp8 | deep_gemm | universal | 12-25% |
| GEMM bf16 | nvjet | universal | 11-13% |
| Hadamard Xform | hadamard | DSv4 | 0-2.4% |
| Indexer Cache | indexer | DSv4 | 0-0.1% |
| Paged MQA | paged_mqa_logits | DSv4 | 0-1.8% |
| MHC | mhc_pre_gemm_sqrsum, mhc_pre_big_fuse, mhc_post_tilelang | DSv4 | 10-15% |
| C4/C128 Prefill | c4_prefill, c128_prefill | DSv4 | 0-0.3% |
| RMSNorm | case-insensitive rms_?norm, layernorm | universal | 1-2% |
| FP8 Quant | quant, Quant | universal | 1-2% |
| TopK | topk | universal | 0-0.7% |
| RoPE | deepseek_rope, fused_norm_rope | DSv4, DSv3 | 1-2% |
| Activation | silu_mul_clamp, act_and_mul | universal | 0-0.5% |
| Other | — | universal | 2-5% |
Reporting Checklist
Include:
- Trace metadata: trace path, model config path, GPU type, TP/EP
- Model Architecture Summary (from
config.json):- model name, num_layers, hidden_size, num_attention_heads, num_key_value_heads, head_dim
- Attention type (e.g. csa_hca), Q/O LoRA ranks
- MoE config: num_experts, topk, num_shared_experts, intermediate_size
- MHC config (if applicable)
- NSA config (if applicable): index_n_heads, index_head_dim, index_topk, qk_rope_head_dim, sliding_window
- compress_ratios distribution (how many CSA_C4 / HCA_C128 / SWA_ONLY / HASH layers)
- Per-batch forward passes summary table (from
layer_timeline_analyzer.py --show-all-passes):- Columns: Fwd#, Start(s), End(s), Duration(ms), Avg Layer(ms), First Layer(ms), Notes
- Identifies cold-start vs steady-state passes
- Chosen forward pass: index and rationale (cold-start vs steady-state)
- Per-layer wall-clock and sum-duration table (from
layer_timeline_analyzer.py --fwd-pass N):- Columns: L, c_r, Type, Wall(ms), SumDur(ms), MLA, MoE, GEMM, NCCL, MHC, Hadam, AR#, K#
- Each row is one layer, with layer type label
- Layer cluster statistics table grouped by type:
- Columns: Cluster, #, Avg Wall(ms), Avg Sum(ms), MLA%, MoE%, GEMM%, NCCL%, MHC%, Hadam%
- Identifies bottleneck layer type and likely next target
- Compute Flow Table for selected representative layer(s):
- Produced by
layer_kernel_breakdown.py --format compute-flow - Columns:
# | Half | Category | Simplified Name | dur(us) | % | ts_rel(ms) | Input Dims - Rows are sorted by top hot kernels (
dur(us)descending) by default - Optional JSON export (
--format json)
- Produced by
- Perfetto UI time ranges when requested
- One-line summary: bottleneck layer type and likely next target


