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Post-training and alignment: reward modeling, RLHF/PPO, DPO/DAAs, GRPO, RLVR, RLAIF, over-optimization. Use when adapting an SFT model with preference or verifiable-reward signals.

Overview

Publishervasilyu1983
RepositoryAI-Agents-public
Skill nameai-post-training
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  • Markdown instructions

    A SKILL.md file the model loads on demand, so it only costs tokens when a request actually matches.

  • Works with any LLM

    AI skills are plain Markdown, not provider-specific code, so this works with GPT, Claude, Gemini, Grok, or a local model.

  • 7 bundled files

    Scripts, templates, and references the model can read while it works. Files are read-only and never executed.

  • Open source

    Published by vasilyu1983 on GitHub. Read the source before you install it.

Installation

Install the Ai Post Training AI skill in TypingMind to use it with any LLM, or drop it into another agent that reads SKILL.md.

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Install in TypingMind

TypingMind installs a skill straight from its GitHub folder — it reads SKILL.md, bundles the resource files, and stores the result locally.

  1. Open the app and go to Plugins → Skills.
  2. Choose "Install from GitHub".
  3. Paste the skill folder URL below and confirm.
  4. Enable the skill in any chat where you want it available.
Plugins → Skills → Add skill → From GitHub URL, then paste the folder URL and press Continue.
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Install in another agent

Any agent that reads the Agent Skills format can use this skill — copy the folder into that agent's skills directory.

Claude Code — .claude/skills
git clone --depth 1 https://github.com/vasilyu1983/AI-Agents-public.git /tmp/AI-Agents-public
mkdir -p .claude/skills
cp -r /tmp/AI-Agents-public/frameworks/shared-skills/skills/ai-post-training .claude/skills/ai-post-training
Restart Claude Code after copying so it picks up the new skill.

Use it in TypingMind

Enable Ai Post Training in any TypingMind chat and the model takes it from there. Its name and description sit in the system prompt, and the moment a request matches, the model loads the full instructions itself — you never invoke it by hand, and it costs no tokens until it is actually used.

The model loads Ai Post Training on its own as soon as a request matches it.

Works with any AI model

AI skills are plain Markdown instructions rather than provider-specific code, so Ai Post Training is not tied to the model it was written for. Install it once in TypingMind and use it with GPT-5, Claude, Gemini, Grok, DeepSeek, Mistral, Llama, or a local model you run yourself — all on your own API keys.

  • Loaded only when it is needed

    The system prompt carries just the name and description. The instructions are fetched on the first matching request, so an idle skill costs nothing.

  • Switch models mid-chat

    Because the skill is instructions rather than code, changing model does not break it — the next model reads the same SKILL.md.

Skill instructions

This is the SKILL.md content the model loads. Read it before installing — a skill is instructions your model will follow.

AI Post-Training

Domain: the rung after supervised fine-tuning — turning a pretrained or SFT'd base model into an aligned, preference-tuned, or reasoning-capable model with a reward signal. This skill owns the post-training decision and pipeline: when to post-train at all, which reward signal you can produce, which algorithm family fits, and how to keep it from over-optimizing. Per-algorithm operational depth lives in ai-llm/references/post-training.md (PPO, DPO, SimPO, KTO, GRPO, GSPO, DAPO, RLVR, RULER, ORPO — catalogue + decision tree); this skill routes there.

It does not cover: pretraining (ai-pretraining), the prompt→RAG→SFT promotion ladder (ai-architecture-advisor), or serving the result (ai-llm-inference).

Quick Reference

You have / wantMethodDeep ref
Labeled demonstrations of the target behaviorSFT (baseline — exhaust it first; not RL)ai-llm
Pairwise preferences, want the least machineryDPO (or DAAs: KTO / ORPO / SimPO)methods
A stronger teacher model, a small studentOn-policy distillation — try before GRPOmethods
Preferences + reward model + online RLGRPO / RLOO (critic-free, 2026 default); PPO is the reference algorithm, now trl.experimentalmethods
Many samples scorable per prompt, drop the criticGRPO (group-relative advantage)methods
A real task with no mechanical checkerRubrics as rewards (the fourth reward source)methods
A multi-turn agent acting in an environmentAgentic RL (trajectory reward, rollout infra)methods
A verifiable checker (math/code/tests) as the rewardRLVR (via GRPO or a GRPO-family variant — GSPO/DAPO/RLOO) — the dominant 2026 reasoning recipemethods
Scale preference labels cheaplyRLAIF / Constitutional AI (model-as-judge)data
A quick lift with no RL loopRejection sampling (best-of-N → SFT)methods
Train/choose the reward model itselfBradley-Terry RM, ORM vs PRM, generative RMreward
Stop reward hacking / over-refusalKL regularization, eval harness, over-optimization controlsover-optimization
Interpret a live GRPO run's metricsAdvantage mean/std, entropy, reward exhaustion, degenerate groupsdiagnostics
Build a robust RLVR checker (not just "use a verifier")Extract → normalize → SymPy equivalence → element-wise gradingreward
Compose fine-tuned checkpoints / strip an unwanted attributeModel merging (averaging, weighted, interpolation, adapter merging)reward

When to Use This Skill

Activate when the user asks (in any language) some form of:

  • "How do I run RLHF / align a model / train with human feedback?"
  • "DPO vs PPO vs GRPO — which preference/RL method?"
  • "How do I train a reasoning model / RLVR / GRPO like DeepSeek-R1?"
  • "How do I build/choose a reward model? ORM or PRM?"
  • "Should I use Constitutional AI / RLAIF instead of human labels?"
  • "My fine-tune still has a preference/safety/refusal gap after SFT — now what?"
  • "How do I collect preference data / what about synthetic preference data?"
  • "My RL model is reward-hacking / over-refusing — how do I fix over-optimization?"

If the gap is missing knowledge (→ RAG), missing format/behavior demonstrable with labels (→ SFT), or reasoning closeable by more thinking on a hosted model (→ raise the thinking budget), you usually do not need this skill. Confirm with ai-architecture-advisor first if unsure.

Scope Boundaries (Use These Skills for Depth)

  • Per-algorithm catalogue + decision tree (PPO/DPO/GRPO/RLVR/RULER/...) -> ai-llm/references/post-training.md
  • TRL / SFT / DPO / GRPO implementation in code -> huggingface-skills: plugin (TRL)
  • Distributed RL training scale (FSDP, vLLM rollout, async RL) -> ai-distributed-training
  • Eval methodology, judge calibration, thresholds -> ai-evals
  • The prompt→RAG→SFT→post-train promotion decision -> ai-architecture-advisor
  • Reasoning-model build walkthrough -> Raschka, Build a Reasoning Model (see sources)

Workflow

  1. Confirm post-training is the right rung. Is the gap knowledge (→ RAG), format/behavior demonstrable with labels (→ SFT), or reasoning closeable on a hosted model (→ raise the thinking budget)? If yes to any, stop — you don't need post-training. → verify: name the gap type.
  2. Exhaust SFT. Establish the SFT baseline; only proceed if a measurable preference/safety/ reasoning gap remains. → verify: SFT eval shows the residual gap.
  3. Identify the reward signal you can actually produce — human pairs, AI feedback, a written rubric, or a verifiable checker. This, not a benchmark, picks the algorithm. → verify: signal is real and labelable.
  4. Pick the method (see Choosing the Method): on-policy distillation if a stronger teacher exists; otherwise offline DPO/DAAs first, promote to GRPO/RLOO online on evidence, RLVR when the reward is verifiable. → verify: simplest method that fits the signal.
  5. Build/choose the reward model or checker (see Reward Modeling). → verify: RM accuracy or checker coverage.
  6. Train with an eval harness from step 1, and KL scoped to the reward source (KL when the reward is learned; β=0 with a verifiable checker). → verify: held-out true-objective metric, not reward curve.
  7. Hand off per-algorithm depth to ai-llm/references/post-training.md and scale to ai-distributed-training.

The Post-Training Pipeline

Post-training is a sequence, not a single algorithm. Each stage is reached only when the previous one is exhausted and a measurable gap remains.

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pretrained base
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  v
1. SFT (instruction tuning)        teach the format/behavior from demonstrations
  |   gap remains: preferences, safety, style the labels can't express
  v
2. preference optimization         DPO / DAAs (offline)  OR  reward model + GRPO/RLOO (online)
  |   gap remains: multi-step reasoning, verifiable correctness
  v
3. reasoning RL (RLVR)             verifiable rewards (math/code/tests), usually via GRPO
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  v
aligned / reasoning model          + continuous eval against over-optimization

Two orthogonal choices run through stages 2–3:

  • Online vs offline. Offline (DPO/DAAs) trains on a fixed preference dataset — simple, stable, no sampling loop or reward model. Online (GRPO/RLOO, or historically PPO) samples from the current policy and scores it live — higher ceiling, more compute and moving parts. Start offline; go online when offline plateaus or you need a reward model's generalization.
  • Reward source. Human preferences → reward model; AI preferences → RLAIF/Constitutional AI; a written multi-criteria rubric → rubrics-as-rewards; verifiable checker (compiler, unit tests, math solver) → RLVR. The reward source you can actually produce determines the algorithm more than any benchmark does — and it also determines whether KL is your trust region (learned reward) or clipping is (verifiable checker).
  • Reference-based vs reference-free. Within the DAA family, DPO/KTO keep a frozen reference model (memory cost, implicit drift bound); ORPO/SimPO drop it (cheaper, no drift bound — pair with a capability regression suite).

Choosing the Method

Pick by the reward signal you can produce, then by compute budget. Full per-algorithm detail and a decision tree are in ai-llm/references/post-training.md; the front-door logic:

  1. Can you write demonstrations? → SFT first. Do not reach for RL to teach something a few hundred labeled examples would teach.
  2. Do you have pairwise preferences and want simplicity?DPO (then KTO/ORPO/SimPO if its numerics misbehave or you only have binary good/bad signals).
  3. Does a stronger teacher model already exist, with a small student?on-policy distillation before any RL loop: the teacher scores the student's own rollouts token-by-token (on-policy, dense). Reported to outperform SFT and GRPO in that setting and to restore generalization SFT loses.
  4. Can you afford a reward model + online RL for a higher ceiling? → a critic-free group-baseline method (GRPO/RLOO) is the 2026 default; it drops the value model and its optimizer state. PPO remains the reference algorithm (InstructGPT lineage) but ships under trl.experimental — a learned reward model does not imply PPO.
  5. Is the reward verifiable (math/code/tests)?RLVR, usually via GRPO or a GRPO-family variant (DAPO/GSPO/RLOO) — the dominant 2026 reasoning recipe, now a portfolio rather than one fixed algorithm; no human labels needed.
  6. Is the task real work with no mechanical checker?rubrics as rewards: a structured multi-criteria rubric grades the response. Legible and auditable, but a model-mediated proxy — so the KL and over-optimization controls apply as they do for a reward model.
  7. Are human labels the bottleneck?RLAIF / Constitutional AI to generate the preference/critique signal from a model + a written constitution.
  8. Want a quick gain without an RL loop?Rejection sampling: best-of-N generate → score → SFT on the winners.

Reward Modeling (the load-bearing component)

In reward-model-based RLHF, model quality is capped by reward-model quality. Key choices:

  • Bradley-Terry RM — the standard: an LM with a scalar value head trained on preference pairs to predict which response a human prefers. Quality depends on preference-data balance and avoiding spurious length/format correlations.
  • ORM vs PRM — Outcome Reward Models score the final answer; Process Reward Models score each reasoning step. PRMs help on multi-step reasoning but need step-level labels and are costlier to build. PRMs themselves split into discriminative (a scalar per step — the 2023 form, brittle on step segmentation and documented as hackable) and generative (the verifier reasons, then judges — the 2026 default where PRMs are used at all).
  • Generative reward modeling / LLM-as-a-judge — use a model to emit a critique or score instead of a scalar head; flexible, but inherits the judge's biases (calibrate via ai-evals).
  • For RLVR you skip the reward model — a deterministic checker is the reward. That is why RLVR is cheaper and harder to over-optimize than reward-model RL where the checker exists. The checker is a much tighter proxy, not the true objective: incomplete tests are still hackable.
  • Rubrics as rewards — when the task is real work with no mechanical checker, a structured multi-criteria rubric can be the reward instead of forcing a fake verifier or falling back to opaque pairwise preferences. Still a model-mediated proxy; treat it like a reward model for over-optimization purposes.

Depth: references/reward-and-data.md.

Over-Optimization Is the Default Failure Mode

Preference RL optimizes a proxy for what you want, so it Goodharts silently — the model games the reward while the true objective degrades. Controls:

  • KL regularization — scoped by reward source. With a learned reward (RM+PPO, rubric grader, DPO's implicit β) KL to the reference policy is the primary trust region and the main knob against reward hacking: tune it, don't omit it. Under a verifiable checker (RLVR), beta=0 is the 2026 standard — TRL's GRPOConfig ships beta=0.0, DAPO drops the KL term, GSPO sets it to zero — and the trust region is carried by PPO-style clipping instead. Reach for a nonzero β there only on evidence of drift or capability regression.
  • Eval harness, always — "completed" is wrong if anything was skipped; measure the true objective (held-out human eval / verifiable tests), not just rising reward. Watch for over-refusal (the model refuses safe requests) and length/sycophancy inflation.
  • On-policy data + pretraining-gradient mixing — mitigate forgetting and distribution collapse.

Depth: references/over-optimization-and-eval.md.

Known Traps

  • reaching for PPO/GRPO when DPO would do — paying for a reward model + RL loop you don't need
  • post-training at all when the gap is missing knowledge (RAG) or format (SFT), not preference/reasoning
  • treating RLHF as one algorithm — it's a pipeline (SFT → preference → reasoning RL) with online/offline and reward-source choices inside it
  • training a reward model on imbalanced/length-correlated preferences, then optimizing its spurious signal
  • running preference RL without an eval harness — reward goes up, true quality goes down, silently (Goodhart)
  • omitting the KL penalty in reward-model RL and watching the policy drift off its trusted SFT behavior (reward hacking, over-refusal) — but carrying a nonzero KL into RLVR by reflex, where β=0 is standard and KL mostly caps the reasoning gain
  • carrying a beta value across method families — DPO's β (~0.1, an implicit-reward temperature) and a GRPO KL coefficient (0.0–0.001) are different objects two orders of magnitude apart
  • reaching for GRPO when a stronger teacher already exists — on-policy distillation is the cheaper and often better move for a small student
  • picking among DPO/KTO/ORPO/SimPO from a list of adjectives instead of the reference-based vs reference-free tradeoff (a frozen model in memory and an implicit drift bound, or neither)
  • assuming a single-turn RLVR recipe transfers to a multi-turn agent — trajectory-level reward, cross-turn credit assignment, and rollout infrastructure are all new problems
  • using RLVR where the reward is not actually verifiable (no deterministic checker) — then it's just reward-model RL with a brittle checker
  • confusing ORM and PRM — process rewards need step-level labels you may not have
  • running vanilla GRPO on a large MoE and fighting non-convergence — token-level ratios break under expert-routing volatility; use GSPO (sequence-level)
  • ignoring GRPO's length/std biases that inflate response length and miscalibrate difficulty — use Dr. GRPO / DAPO fixes (see methods reference)
  • assuming a reasoning gap needs RLVR when, on a hosted model, raising the thinking budget would close it without any training

Common Anti-Patterns

  • jumping to RL before SFT is exhausted
  • choosing the algorithm from a benchmark instead of from the reward signal you can produce
  • treating reward-model quality as an afterthought when it caps the whole result
  • measuring success by reward curve instead of the true held-out objective
  • this skill re-teaching the per-algorithm math instead of routing to the ai-llm catalogue

Core Principles

  1. SFT first, RL last. Exhaust demonstrations before any reward-based method.
  2. The reward signal picks the algorithm. Four sources: human pairs → DPO/RM+GRPO; AI preferences → RLAIF; a rubric → rubrics-as-rewards; a verifiable checker → RLVR.
  3. Offline before online. Start with DPO's simplicity; promote to GRPO/RLOO on evidence.
  4. Reward quality caps model quality. Invest in the reward model, rubric, or checker accordingly.
  5. Assume over-optimization. Always eval the true objective, or it Goodharts. Add KL to the reference when the reward is learned; under a verifiable checker the trust region is clipping and β=0 is standard.

Navigation: Core References

  • methods-and-pipeline.md — the SFT→preference→RL pipeline, online vs offline, reference-based vs reference-free, and how each method (DPO/PPO/GRPO/RLVR/rejection sampling/on-policy distillation) maps to a reward signal; also agentic/multi-turn RL, rubrics-as-rewards, and the per-method beta anchor table; routes to the ai-llm algorithm catalogue for per-algorithm depth
  • reward-and-data.md — reward modeling (Bradley-Terry, ORM/PRM, generative RM), preference-data collection, synthetic data, RLAIF/Constitutional AI
  • over-optimization-and-eval.md — reward hacking/Goodhart, KL regularization, over-refusal, and evaluating the true objective
  • grpo-run-diagnostics.md — reading a live GRPO/RLVR run: advantage mean (sanity check) vs std (learning signal), degenerate zero-gradient groups, reward exhaustion at 1.00, entropy trajectories, and a triage table

External Sources

See data/sources.json for primary references: Lambert's RLHF book (the anchor), InstructGPT, DPO, DeepSeek-R1 (GRPO/RLVR), Tülu 3, GKD and Thinking Machines' on-policy distillation, Rubrics as Rewards, the multi-turn agentic RL practitioner's guide, the PRM survey, Raschka's Build a Reasoning Model (verifier engineering + GRPO run telemetry), and Pai's Designing Large Language Model Applications (model merging/fusion taxonomy).

Fact-Checking

  • Algorithm names, framework support, and which labs use which recipe are volatile; verify against current primary sources before recommending a specific one. TRL specifically turns over fast — its loss_type roster, trainer namespaces (first-class vs trl.experimental), and defaults all changed between 2026-07 and 2026-08.
  • The framework landscape is wider than TRL: verl (the common backbone for large-scale and agentic RL, async rollout), OpenRLHF (multi-turn/VLM RL), and others (NeMo RL, AReaL, ROLL, slime). Choose beyond TRL when scale, asynchronous rollout, or multi-turn environments are the constraint; delegate depth to ai-distributed-training. Health and feature claims for any of these must be re-checked — they were not verified past 2026-08.
  • Model-specific recipe claims (e.g. "DeepSeek-R1 used X") must be checked against the model's own technical report, not secondary summaries.
  • If you cannot verify, present guidance as a dated assumption, not a fact.

Learnings Loop

Before applying this skill on a non-trivial task, read learnings.consolidated.md in this directory (and learnings.md if present).

After applying it, if you encountered a pattern worth remembering, a mistake worth preventing, or a domain fact that surprised you, append one dated bullet to learnings.md via agents-skills-feedback-loop/scripts/append_learning.py. Do not modify SKILL.md itself.

Bundled files

The model reads these on demand while the skill is loaded. They are exposed as readable files and are never executed.

Frequently asked questions

What does the Ai Post Training AI skill do?

Post-training and alignment: reward modeling, RLHF/PPO, DPO/DAAs, GRPO, RLVR, RLAIF, over-optimization. Use when adapting an SFT model with preference or verifiable-reward signals.

Why use Ai Post Training on TypingMind?

Because you install it once and use it with any model. Ai Post Training is plain Markdown rather than provider-specific code, so the same skill runs on GPT-5, Claude, Gemini, Grok, or a local model — and you can switch model mid-chat without it breaking. TypingMind runs on your own API keys, so you pay providers directly instead of a per-seat subscription, and your skills and chats stay in your own storage.

How do I install Ai Post Training in TypingMind?

Open Plugins → Skills → Install from GitHub in TypingMind and paste https://github.com/vasilyu1983/AI-Agents-public/tree/main/frameworks/shared-skills/skills/ai-post-training. TypingMind reads its SKILL.md and bundles its files and installs it as a skill you can enable per chat.

Which AI models can use Ai Post Training?

Any model you connect in TypingMind. AI skills are plain Markdown instructions rather than provider-specific code, so GPT, Claude, Gemini, Grok, and local models can all load this skill when a request matches it.

How many AI models can I use with Ai Post Training?

As many as you like. As long as a model supports skills, you can use Ai Post Training with it — GPT, Claude, Gemini, Grok, DeepSeek, Mistral, Llama and more — all on TypingMind with your own API keys.

Is the Ai Post Training AI skill free?

Yes. It is published on GitHub by vasilyu1983 under the MIT license. You only pay your own AI provider for the tokens you use.

What are AI skills?

An AI skill is a reusable instruction bundle that teaches an AI model how to do one specific task. It follows the open Agent Skills format: a SKILL.md file with a name and description, plus any scripts, templates or reference files the model may need. The model reads the instructions only when your request matches the skill, so an installed skill costs nothing until it is used.

How are AI skills different from plugins or MCP servers?

A plugin or MCP server gives a model new tools to call — code that runs somewhere and returns a result. An AI skill gives the model knowledge and process instead: how to approach a task, which steps to follow, what good output looks like. Skills are plain Markdown, so they need no server, no API key and no runtime, and they work with any model.

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